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Thread: Desirability (and Value) of Specific Models

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Robert View Post
    I also wonder if it was the presumably lesser weight of a B-3, what with the spindle legs, etc., that made it more popular? Thoughts on the subject?
    The weight difference is too small to make a real logistic difference; and the spindly legs aren't really an asset - as long as the organ is moved using dollies (which 90% of people do). The reason being that the B3, with it legs, has such a wide stance that putting the thing on dollies is much more difficult. On a C-3 or A-100, you just tilt the organ slightly and slide the dolly in one end at a time (no lifting required); but the B-3 doesn't tilt - it starts sliding on the floor instead so requires much more muscle to get it on the dollies.

    So, when it comes to "ease of moving" - the A-100 is the easiest because it is narrower and passes thru doors easily. Then comes the C-3 because of the above, and the B-3 comes last.
    Current organs: AV, BC, A-100
    Current Leslies: 22H, 142, 147, 760
    Organs in the past: L-100 (several), M-100 (x2), T-100, E-100, CV
    Other keyboards: Roland FP-4, Yamaha DX7, Yamaha TX81Z, Yamaha Motif ES Rack, Korg Krome, Novation Mininova

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    B-3 425 lbs
    C-3 450 lbs
    A100 381 lbs

    I wouldn't want to carry any of them up a flight of stairs! Both B-3 and C-3 provide a coffin like container to put the squashed 'organ mover' in when it lands on top of them... At least the A100 will get through doorways a little bit easier.

    What makes anything more popular than the next? Marketing, visibility, myth, legend, looks, legs etc. who cares? It doesn't matter. It is the sound that is important (and, being hand-built, every Hammond will have its own variations). Is it better to have a highly polished B-3 cabinet that sounds pretty ordinary -vs- a beaut sounding organ that has been around the traps a little. Are you looking for a museum piece or a beast to take out on the road? Everyone will have their own perspective on what feels good and suits their ears, needs and pocket.

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    1966 C-3 / 925
    1965 M102 / 145
    1967 M111A / 330

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    [QUOTE=peterb_2795;494223]B-3 425 lbs
    C-3 450 lbs
    A100 381 lbs

    Please forgive my ignorance, but do the above weights include the pedalboard and bench? (I'm assuming they don't.)

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    They do, yes
    1966 C-3 / 925
    1965 M102 / 145
    1967 M111A / 330

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    As a refugee from the combo organ, garage-band days, I remember thinking that the B3 didn't look like a "church" organ and therefore looked cool on stage. As for unsung heroes, I love my AV. Perfect size but still the console look. I think I've got it clear in my head how to overcome the obstacles in adding Trek II percussion so that's my Feb 2019 project. (retiring Jan 31)

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    [QUOTE=Doctor Robert;494240]
    Quote Originally Posted by peterb_2795 View Post
    B-3 425 lbs
    C-3 450 lbs
    A100 381 lbs

    Please forgive my ignorance, but do the above weights include the pedalboard and bench? (I'm assuming they don't.)
    Pedalboard, bench and shipping pallet/packaging.

    A B-3 on its own weighs in at some 140 kgs (310 lbs)
    Current organs: AV, BC, A-100
    Current Leslies: 22H, 142, 147, 760
    Organs in the past: L-100 (several), M-100 (x2), T-100, E-100, CV
    Other keyboards: Roland FP-4, Yamaha DX7, Yamaha TX81Z, Yamaha Motif ES Rack, Korg Krome, Novation Mininova

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    The AV looks great!
    1955 B3, Leslie 21H and 147. Hammond A100 with weird Leslie 205. 1976 Rhodes. Wurlitzer 200A. Yamaha DX7/TX7. Korg M1. Yamaha C3 grand, 67 Tele blond neck, Les Paul Standard, PRS 24, Gibson classical electric, Breedlove acoustic electric, Strat, P Bass, Rogers drum kit, Roland TD 12 digital drums, Apollo quad, older blackfaced Fender Twin, other amps, mics and bits and pieces cluttering up the "studio."

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