Reply With Quotesounds like a newer solid state model.
HI,
A friend who pastors a church 100 miles away just told me they had an organ that sat for 15 years they want to give away. Says it has a squeel and he let me hear over the phone. I could not define if it was mechanical or audio. Someone told him to oil which makes sense. Do the bearings on a tone wheel ever squeel? He sent me some pix to my phone but I can't tell enough about it inside and out.
Looks different than the B3 I own and posted about and looks differrent than the E333 at our church in side and out. The only model number he found was one which was 1164-62. That number doesn't seem like any Hammond number I have seen. Also he said it said Spinet. Also he said there was a tag said manufactured in CA and I thought all Hammonds were manufactured in Chicago. We already have one ogan down , another in the back of the church with bad sound and then my B3 down. We really don't need another free one that has a problem.
Can any one give me any idea of this organ. If It were closer I would go look.
Thanks All for any help.
Al in TX USA
sounds like a newer solid state model.
'4x Conn Connsonata 2A2
'6x L-133A
'64 A-102
'48 CV
'69 Leslie 147RV (Non functioning reverb)
'5x chopped M3 (M2 case M3 guts)
'59 Leslie 25 (to be converted to 145)
'5x M2 (plays fine looks horrible)
Previous:
'6x M-143 (Too rough of shape, parts), '5x M3 (found on side of road, parts), '81 kimball stardust (owner destroyed it to get up stairs; parts),
'8x Hammond Aurora, A-102, M2 (now part of chop), another M2, Wurlitzer spinet, Wersi DX350, Thomas chordian
Squeeling is good, it means it probably has a tone wheel in it.
Have them look near the bottom of the back on the right hand side. There should be a model number plate there.
Wes
Not necessarily good, Wes. Could just be a mechanical squeal from a leslie unit, or an electronic squeal from something solid state.
Do we even know it's a Hammond? If you post or link to a photo or two, AID, then we'll ID it in a flash!
It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.
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Yes, tonewheels, squeal. Even 2 weeks after oiling, if the floor is not level. Takes 2 weeks for the oil to soak in. Look for a motor in the back under the cover if you can't send a picture before deciding. 25 pedal organs are more worth it than 12 pedal organs, the little spinnets are so common in the middle US that it is hardly worth driving 100 miles to pick it up.
city Hammond H-182 organ (2 ea),A100,10-82 TC,Steinway 40" console piano, Sohmer 39" piano, Ensoniq EPS, Wurlitzer 4500, Dynakit ST120, ST70 amps, Herald Ra88 Mixer, Peavey SP2XT speakers,BIC turntable; country Hammond H112.
I set up an album AlD that says organ to identify. As soon as the moderator ok's maybe someone will recognize this thing. Most of what I see doen't resemble much of my B3 or the E333 in our church. Do some organs have internal Leslie in them. In the phone conversation I think he did say he saw something that said Leslie. He said it had been sittling for 15 years and the church wanted to get rid if it. I told him to try to oil. As someone said there are so many little ones that are give aways most likely not worth it. I am already working with a man that has a B3 that the church could by but it was sitting and bad need of oiling. He is oiling and then if it frees up to make sound we can negotiate. Besides that I am still trying to sort out my personal B3 that I have posted about.
THANKS ALL AL in TX USA
Dry tonewheels squeal very loudly.Originally Posted by AlD
Looking at the photos in your gallery, this is a first generation LSI console, the stripped down version of the 'Monarch' from around 1976/7. I think the model number may have been misread - its should be 16462.
1) it's not worth a bean, dead or alive, so free is the right price!
2) the squeal can't be tonewheels, as it doesn't have any, it's solid state.
3) so the squeal is, as I said earlier, either the internal Leslie unit's bearings, motors or pulley. Easy enough to find and lubricate. OR, it's an electronic squeal from the tone generator boards somewhere.
If you do get the organ, once you've moved it the 100 miles home, it will almost certainly have developed more faults. The problem, often called LSI Disease, is caused by loose or oxidised edge connectors between the circuit boards. Unplug them all, clean the contacts and then see what you've got.
Only you can decide if you want to take this one on as a repair job - personally, I wouldn't bother. It will never sound like a tonewheel Hammond (though if you add a Leslie 710 it does come alive somewhat.)
Andy
It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.
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Thanks Andy!!!! I figured it was not worth trouble I am trying to replace an organ in our church and there is a B3 like mine(which I am trying to get running) 5 miles from me and 15 miles from the church. The owner wants to sell but it has sat 2 years. I have him oiling and turning. Would be much better to get this B3 and it running then messing with that other one. I will just tell the friend it is not worth moving. Will tell him give to good will!! HA they peobably won't eve want it.
AL IN TX USA
buy the B3 before it is running for less$$$$$$$ it will always be valuable and will always be worth fixing...........always...........Joe
1956 M3, 130 custom leslie, 51 Leslie, 860 Leslie with Preamp, S08 Yamaha and K2000S, Young Chang 85 key spinet and Korg SV-1 73less Hammonds, downsized they found a good home
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