Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: Which analog electronic organ has the best-sounding piano?

  1. #1
    Member Keyboardguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    South Wales, UK
    Posts
    226

    Which analog electronic organ has the best-sounding piano?

    As per the thread title, what d'ya reckon? The piano voice used to be something of a selling point for organs, and was percieved by some that the more realistic the piano was - the better the organ I read somewhere that the piano was very difficult to replicate accurately using the electronics of the era and it has to be said that the offerings from most organ manufacturers weren't very convincing to say the least, but some however stood out from the rest. Now this is a subjective topic, but I'm sure there is general agreement on what was considered the the most authentic analog piano voice, eg. some Conns, the later Hammonds. I always felt that a 16' preset was more versatile than an 8'.

    So away you go, and remember - no digital samples allowed!
    Yamaha D-85, Technics U90 Pro, Wersi Helios W2S, Roland E-70, Technics K700

  2. #2
    Senior Member OrgansR4Me's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    1,630
    Piano was introduced by Gulbransen and was considered very good. Compared to today's advanced sample voices it would be considered primitive. It was generally best used for a single lead note melody. Wasn't as convincing with chords unless they were played in an appegio style. I've not used the piano feature much on my Thomas or Conn organs, but did use it on my Hammond Colonnade, especially on the lower manual where it had an automatic appegiator. It added nice variation to novelty sounds and pop songs.

  3. #3
    Buy the Casio Privia, you won't be disappointed in playing your piano music and you can get 'em at BestBuy.
    Last edited by kurtdaniel1; 07-08-2011 at 08:18 AM.

  4. #4
    Senior Member Orgrinder010's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    2,258
    Hammond Aurora has a decent piano for being LSI.
    ~1936 Hammond AV - Leslie 122 & PR40~~1954 Wurlitzer ElectroStatic 4602 - Leslie 125~

  5. #5
    Moderator andyg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Newhaven, UK
    Posts
    6,726
    I think general agreement would probably be that it's Gulbransen. It certainly was 'back in the day'. Conn didn't get there until the Martinique, IMHO, the VFM piano was a joke and the piano unit in the likes of the 580 and 651 were affected by the vibrato. Thanks heavens for the Solo Trem Cancel on the 651! Hammond's piano in the LSI series, though good, never quite did it for me like the Gully did. The Thomas Palace piano impressed me at the time but now, listening to recordings of it, I have to wonder why! 16' pitch is always richer than the 8' versions, Gully put it at 16' in the Paragon and Theatrum, but all the other models were, I'm sure, at 8'.
    It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

    New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com


  6. #6
    Senior Member paulj0557's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    1,422
    I find my Thomas Palace III's piano is fairly acceptable for 1966. With the sostinuto (knee sustain lever) to control decay and tabs to select grand piano,harpsichord, and accordion it really adds a variety of piano dynamics to what is not a bad sounding piano tone especially for single note lines. It is best suited for accompaniment, but in the scope of things it's nice to have something, anything with a hammer & decay effect. Thomas really went all out and used everything they knew. Unlike the Rialto II and the Elegante , the Palace's piano isn't synthetic so in some ways it sounds as if it had the same ADSR as these two, it would probably blow them both away. It would interesting to sample the Palaces piano and shape it on the computer.
    Wurlitzer '46' Model 31 Orgatron & 310 rotary cab, 56' 4410 , '64' 4500, 65' 4300, '77' 625t
    Thomas '66' Palace III Theater, '73' Californian 263
    Hammond '55' S6 Chord Organ,HR-40,ER-20, Altec A-7(SOLD but missed). '6?-7?' X66 & 12-77 tone cabinet & L112 spinet [latest addition to my collection]...my RT2,Elegante,Leslie 31H sold
    Gulbransen 61' 1132 '76' Rialto II & Leslie 705 + two 540
    Conn'68' 543 Minuet '57' 406 Caprice
    53' Stromberg Carlson Carillon- rare weighted key design!

  7. #7
    Moderator andyg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Newhaven, UK
    Posts
    6,726
    Maybe it's the recording quality, then Paul. It comes across as very stringy on the vinyl. Now I at last have a new turntable, I'll get some Thomas tracks posted and you can see what I mean.
    It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.

    New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com


  8. #8
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Lancashire
    Posts
    111
    Slightly off subject. Does anyone have a pdf of the Theatrum specification, leaflet or user manual. I find myself developing an interest in having one. I know it has great flutes but just want to fine out what else other than the piano. I was about 11 the last time I played one!

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •