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    Quote Originally Posted by indianajo View Post
    Brandon said "Did Bach even HAVE pedals to work on in his day?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by indianajo View Post
    Bach was the John McVie of his day, he took the idea of Buxtahude who wrote some things for two measure pedal riffs, and ran the idea out to 8 measures. You should really pick up a CD of Passacaglia & Fugue in C minor by JSB. It's my favorite piece in the world, and great on Hammond A-B-C-D-E's or H's.
    I'll look it up. When I was young I learned a passacaglia based on "the house of the rising sun" it was great!!! And the title "Passacaglia" always made me think of fresh parsley. Another classical form rehashed in the Grand days of Rock was Jethro Tull's Bouree... Mmmmmmmm!

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    I started playing JSB 2 part inventions when I was nine, really like them but am a little jaded. #8 is a great introduction for the second year student to classical music, no (few?) sharps or flats. I've misplaced my Busoni annotated invention book, and won't be spending a lot of time looking for it either.
    I'm more than a little jaded on my learning too (and yep, I dig Dave Barry too). The beauty of classical knowledge is it is a spark to creativity. It enables you to take music and break the next frontier. Today's pop is far less inventive than that of the sixties and seventies... let's face it those musicians used musical KNOWLEDGE to do what they did, and the barriers haven't been tested very much since then. Musos still need classical training if they're going to ever do anything new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendon Wright View Post
    Today's pop is far less inventive than that of the sixties and seventies... let's face it those musicians used musical KNOWLEDGE to do what they did, and the barriers haven't been tested very much since then.
    Did that work? anyway, the poetry of recent pop is more up to date, although the musical style is kind of pedestrian. Listened to Ben Folds last week, such modern problems.
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    Eh! It DID work!
    It's also kinda hard to fully bag a market that includes nearly every kind of music imaginable if only a chap knows where to look.
    Myspace for example, is full of.... well, anything you want really!
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    Heard a modern Passacaglia today, heavy bass line repeated over and over against organ variations. Passacaglia in G min, J J Keeler, played by Pickering in Utah. Pipe Dreams radio program was in Utah today. Nothing like Inna Gadda Davida in Assembly Building, Utah, of course.
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    So... pasacaglia was of spanish origin,eh? (not to be confused with a pasa doble, right?) meaning walking down the street?
    Well I never.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passacaglia
    Imagine having a name like Frescobaldi! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girolamo_Frescobaldi
    Dang, I should have had all this stuff in my education. The musical world has so much untapped colour.....
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    1990 Jansen GMF150 amp.
    Yamaha electric Harmonium (early 80's?)
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    Yeah, JS Bach had a spanish phantasy in his youth. I found out about Passacaglia in C min JSB by hearing it on the FM radio, but it doesn't get played much. JSB heard them from Buxtehuda I think, he walked 70 miles to hear him play in his twenties. I tried to get someone to play it live at JSB's 400th birthday party by SIAGO by waving two pictures of Jackson ($40), the guild president said "Oh, you mean that old war horse??" No takers. So I bought an organ and am learning to play it myself. Stately tread, indeed. Those sixteenth notes on the pedals are pretty tricky. Have you seen those spanish ladies on travel shows tread around the bullring in their sunday finest dress before the main event? That kind of Passacaglia.
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    The present and the future aren't nearly so fun until we get the spice of history on the plate!
    I bet those ladies drank coffee by the pailful and have very loong legs, right?
    I guess they eat chilli too...
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    DIY 760 FrankenLeslie/rat hideout
    1992 Korg 01W/fd
    1992 G&L S-500 geetar
    1990 Jansen GMF150 amp.
    Yamaha electric Harmonium (early 80's?)
    Rhodes MkII stage piano - borrowed (Now returned. Now I'm sad.)
    And I touched a 1958 M3 once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indianajo View Post
    I started playing JSB 2 part inventions when I was nine, really like them but am a little jaded. #8 is a great introduction for the second year student to classical music, no (few?) sharps or flats.
    Hi Jo,
    one flat - it is in F major. This one is real fun. Here I did the introduction with the theme of "Praise to the Lord the Almighty, the King of creation." www.cisum.info/inventio8a.mp3

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    Hee hee! What a hoot! That was a really fun piece.

    My church leaders seem to be a bunch of heathens (though they ARE fun guys). The "boss man" is secretly of the opinion that anything remotely classical or hymnal is next best thing to "of the devil" and seem to be eradicating history as he moves forward. Classic Rock's just gone out the window after blues. I think it may be because the word "classic" is in the title, and blues is focussed on being sad, therefore ungodly.
    Agh! The C3 was moved off the stage along with it all!!
    Oh well.
    Plenty of other places to use the ministry of music in the meantime. I'll give it a year and move the C3 back onstage.
    There are ways to deal with alpha males!

    Thanks for the track, Cudo!
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    1964 M101
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    1975 T500 (modded..chopped, and reassembled!)
    DIY 760 FrankenLeslie/rat hideout
    1992 Korg 01W/fd
    1992 G&L S-500 geetar
    1990 Jansen GMF150 amp.
    Yamaha electric Harmonium (early 80's?)
    Rhodes MkII stage piano - borrowed (Now returned. Now I'm sad.)
    And I touched a 1958 M3 once.

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    Hi Brendon,

    thanx for listening. When we were Hippies in the sixties, we all wanted to emigrate to New Zealand. )
    And it is still a dream for me.
    Well, here I did the INVENTIO #6 in E major. This is a real funny one because of the descending chromatic line. --> http://cisum.info/inventio06ak.mp3

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