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sesquialtera16
09-20-2007, 01:57 AM
I experimented to attempt to follow the single spacing requirement in the Spec Forum and whenI type on there it still comes out double spaced; same ifI copy/paste from word processing a small font single-spaced triple column historic spec. Any suggstions how to correct this anomaly?

soubasse32
09-20-2007, 04:32 PM
<UL>
<LI>Without going into the HTML code (which you can also do, if you know how to edit it)...</LI>
<LI>you can make a bulleted list</LI>
<LI>such as this one</LI>[/list]

<LI>Or you could make a numbered list</LI>
<LI>such as this one.</LI>
<LI>Just select the icon for bullets or numbers</LI>


Whenyou hit &lt;enter&gt; it takes you to the next line and adds the bullet or number - pretty cool.</P>


Whenyou hit &lt;enter&gt; twice it takes you back to the regular mode.</P>
<P mce_keep="true">Concerning HTML and tables ... when I press the "HTML" button it takes me to yet another editor where I may input something such as a table. The text I have to input looks something like this:</P>
<P mce_keep="true">&lt;TABLE class=""&gt;
&lt;TBODY&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD class=""&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;Great&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;</P>
<P mce_keep="true">&lt;TD class=""&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;Swell&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;</P>
<P mce_keep="true">&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD class=""&gt;Open Diapason 8&lt;/TD&gt;</P>
<P mce_keep="true">&lt;TD class=""&gt;Stopped Diapason 8&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;</P>
<P mce_keep="true">&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD class=""&gt;Bourdon 8&lt;/TD&gt;</P>
<P mce_keep="true">&lt;TD class=""&gt;Viola 8&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;</P>
<P mce_keep="true">&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD class=""&gt;Octave 4&lt;/TD&gt;</P>
<P mce_keep="true">&lt;TD class=""&gt;Vox Celeste 8&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;
</P>
<P mce_keep="true">I know its a pain to enter all of that gobbledygook, but it can be fun andthe result looks quite good:</P>
<TABLE class="">
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD class=""><U>Great</U></TD>
<TD class=""><U>Swell</U></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class="">Open Diapason 8</TD>
<TD class="">Stopped Diapason 8</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class="">Bourdon 8</TD>
<TD class="">Viola 8</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class="">Octave 4</TD>
<TD class="">Vox Celeste 8</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


More info on HTML and tables: http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/tables/index_famsupp_27.html</P>

PeteKnobloch
09-21-2007, 03:53 PM
I experimented to attempt to follow the single spacing requirement in the Spec Forum and whenI type on there it still comes out double spaced; same ifI copy/paste from word processing a small font single-spaced triple column historic spec. Any suggstions how to correct this anomaly?</P>


Because each of your</P>


entries in your stop descriptions</P>


are ending with the ENTER key,</P>


the forum software is taking this as a new paragraph.</P>


This problem is seen in the above 4 lines. I don't agree with how it works but maybe it should be reported as an issue when doing a copy and paste from a word document. The page displayed in MS Word doesn't look the same when imported into the forum editor.</P>


A work around can be
done by using the REQUIRED NL
function rather then the normal NL.
I am using this to format the above4 lines.
REQUIRED NL is created by doing a
SHIFT+ENTER to go to the next line
rather then just the ENTER.</P>


Sometimes the tools that the engineer adds to a product to help make things seem easier to him does't translate to it being easyer to the end user. The next time you format a message, try using the SHIFT+ENTER function and you will see how it works. Many people don't even know there is a difference.</P>


Pete</P>

Admin
09-22-2007, 12:47 AM
Thanks Soubasse andPete for your helpful formatting tips. Pete is indeed correct that hittingENTER after a line inserts a paragraph break the same as any WSYWIG editor. The SHIFT+ENTER trick isa good one that I wasn't awareof.</P>


Another tip isif you are using MS Word, is to use the Paste FromWord option.Create your content in Word, then copy it tothe Clipboard. In the Forum editor, click the Paste From Word icon (the one of clipboard and Word icon),and yourWordformatting will be preserved. Here is a table created in Word andimported into this message in that manner.</P>
<TABLE class="" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=1>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


<FONT color=#3300ff>GREAT</FONT></P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


<FONT color=#3300ff>SWELL</FONT></P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


<FONT color=#3300ff>SOLO</FONT></P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


<FONT color=#3300ff>PEDAL</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Diapason 16'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Bourdon 16'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Trombone 16'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Diaphone 32'</P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Open Diapason 8'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Orchestral Flute 8'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Tibia 8'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Bourdon 16'</P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Viole D'Orch 8'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Salicional 8'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Brass Trumpet 8'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Violone 16'</P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<P mce_keep="true"></P>


Finally, if all of this formatting stuff is too much for you to get your ahead around, change the default editor in profile to the plain text editor. You then can create your columns the old fashioned way with tabs and space characters.</P>


Oh, and one last thing, (if I may borrow a phrase from Steve Jobs), be aware that in the past neither the Mac or Windows version of Safari has played nice with the Forum's rich text editor, so you might want to try Firefox on the Mac and PC, or IE 6 or greater on the PC if you want anything but plain text.</P>
<P mce_keep="true"></P>

myorgan
02-19-2008, 06:09 AM
Another tip isif you are using MS Word, is to use the Paste FromWord option.Create your content in Word, then copy it tothe Clipboard. In the Forum editor, click the Paste From Word icon (the one of clipboard and Word icon),and yourWordformatting will be preserved. Here is a table created in Word andimported into this message in that manner.</P>
<TABLE class="" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=1>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


<FONT color=#3300ff>GREAT</FONT></P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


<FONT color=#3300ff>SWELL</FONT></P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


<FONT color=#3300ff>SOLO</FONT></P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


<FONT color=#3300ff>PEDAL</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Diapason 16'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Bourdon 16'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Trombone 16'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Diaphone 32'</P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Open Diapason 8'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Orchestral Flute 8'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Tibia 8'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Bourdon 16'</P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Viole D'Orch 8'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Salicional 8'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Brass Trumpet 8'</P></TD>
<TD class="" vAlign=top width=148>


Violone 16'</P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


</P>


May I also humbly suggest that when pasting tables from MS Word, that you include lines to help separate text (as seen below)? That may help some browsers delineate between cells, rows, and columns.</P>



<TABLE class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; mso-cellspacing: 0in; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 0in" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=1>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #3300ff">GREAT</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #3300ff">SWELL</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #3300ff">SOLO</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #3300ff">PEDAL</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Diapason 16'<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Bourdon 16'<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Trombone 16'<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Diaphone 32'<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Open Diapason 8'<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Orchestral Flute 8'<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Tibia 8'<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Bourdon 16'<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Viole D'Orch 8'<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Salicional 8'<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Brass Trumpet 8'<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD class="" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">


<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Violone 16'<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>
<DIV>Just a suggestion.</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Michael</DIV>

davidecasteel
02-19-2008, 06:32 PM
In those table examples, I would strongly recommend making the cells wider, enough to put some space after the longest entry. Those listings are very hard to read as they are.</P>


David</P>