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Allen organ ADC 2160. Want to add presence projection speakers and set up antiphonal system.

Last post 11-20-2008, 2:38 PM by Allen Colson. 20 replies.
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  •  11-20-2008, 7:01 AM 67424 in reply to 67423

    I would also note

    Even tho it has 6 channels, those channels only have 2 frequency domains.  Unlike the big cage ADC organs that could have multiple FG (frequency generator) boards.  That's one of the ways the big ADCs could sound rather better than the little MADC organs.  I'll never forget hearing Dr. Eileen Gunther give a concert on an ADC-6000 IIRC.  Wow.  Seemed very pipe like at the time - of course I was just a kid back then.

    I'm currently using my Lexicon MPX-1 to pitch shift one of the channels by a few cents, this definitely gives a richer sense of ensemble in full registrations.  Unfortunately that particular device, tho good at reverb, has an annoying bug in the pitch shift routine that makes it sometimes glitch on note changes.  This sounds very "digital" and essentially nullifies any increase in realism!   If I really wanted to pour more money and time into my Allen setup, I'd find a used piece of studio gear that could do a better job, but I'll probably never got around to that.  There's a lot of cheap outboard gear on ebay now that more and more studios are doing their mixing virtually.

    NB that getting a modicum of realism from this series of organs, though they were good for their day and price point, is going to be frustrating compared to just, say, using Hauptwerk or something like it.  Which I will when Hauptwerk, or something, like it is released for Linux.  I simply refuse to run it on Windows.  For all we know, every version of Vista & XP in the universe has a built-in time bomb set to stop it working in 5 years.  There would nothing illegal with Microsoft doing that.  Open source is the way to go, thats why the developers of the Trinity Wall St. organ used it!

     


     

  •  11-20-2008, 7:09 AM 67425 in reply to 67423

    Re: Allen organ ADC 2160. Want to add presence projection speakers and set up antiphonal system.

    Does anyone have a chart that labels the specific inputs and outputs to the mixer board?  Is there a specific output that is designed to be connected to a subwoofer?  That is another item I have been looking to add.  Sure would like to have a schematic, or input/output diagram of the mixer board as well as some outline of what the DIP switches control before I start experimenting.
    Allen
  •  11-20-2008, 7:14 AM 67427 in reply to 67423

    Re: Allen organ ADC 2160. Want to add presence projection speakers and set up antiphonal system.

    Does anyone have a diagram labeling the inputs and outputs of the mixer board as well as the function of the DIP switches?  Is there a specific subwoofer output?  Sure would like to see diagrams and schematics before I start experimenting.  Is the rerouting of things done by disconnection and reconnection of cables in different locations or simply by changing DIP switch settings?
    Allen
  •  11-20-2008, 7:19 AM 67430 in reply to 67424

    Re: I would also note

    Circa1949, How do you feel about operating Hauptwerk in MAC osX?  I agree with you on the Windows thing, I despise Windows.  Just wondering if you have had any experience with MAC.  I hear that Hauptwerk runs very well on a MAC.
    Allen
  •  11-20-2008, 1:32 PM 67446 in reply to 67430

    Re: I would also note

    Yes, if it came down to it, I'd go with the Mac.  At least their business model is to rip people off on the hardware, not on the software LOL.  I do know of some Mac servers at my place of work that have been pretty reliable for 3 years.  Do they even make rack servers anymore though?  Anyhow sooner or later though, something will come out for Linux.



     

  •  11-20-2008, 2:38 PM 67452 in reply to 67446

    Re: I would also note

    True, MAC hardware is more expensive on the front end,  BUT simply put, it just works.  No drivers, almost no freeze ups or crashes, no virus issues to speak of and no Windows BS.  For me, it was worth a little extra on the front side to avoid some of the headaches with Microsoft rip off software that you have to spend time on the phone with support trying to get all the conflicts ironed out.  I am actually considering using my MAC for this instead of my Windows PC.  I am with you on hoping for a Linux version in the future.  In any case(Window, Linux, MAC osX), I'd use a computer that is absolutely dedicated for Hauptwerk, and I'd keep it off of the internet.
    Allen
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