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Last post 03-02-2008, 4:42 PM by soubasse32. 30 replies.
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  •  02-26-2008, 6:28 PM 49416 in reply to 49408

    Re: Footwear

    ....And if you call now within the next 10 minutes, the next 25 callers will receive some free polish to go with it and we'll even throw in a coupon for all sorts of piercings. Sorry no COD's. (Followed by "testimonials" by celebrities).

     

  •  02-27-2008, 5:36 AM 49436 in reply to 49282

    Re: Footwear

    There's basically only one rule and that is--Don't play the organ in shoes you wear for any other reason. Of course if you don't wear shoes at all you can skip that rule. But most definitely do not play in shoes you wear outside etc. And don't wear your organ shoes anywhere else.

     

    Anyways, I've always worn organmasters. So I can't say they're the best thing since sliced bread, but they work well for me. I've tried playing in socks but thirds are a big time PITA. 

  •  02-27-2008, 7:18 AM 49438 in reply to 49322

    Re: Footwear

    I've always preferred Capezios.   And yes, Tutti is right: don't use your organ shoes for any other purpose!

    soubasse32:

    I've had the same pair of Organmaster Shoes for ... nearly 30 years!  Surprise  I keep them stored in special socks, which helps keep them looking good.  Geeked

    Since you have a regular church job, do you keep your organ shoes at church?   

    Reminds me of a cute tale: Barry Rose (then DoM at Guildford Cathedral) was visiting York Minster and saw Francis Jackson's organ shoes in the loft.  He wondered if his pedal technique would improve if he put them on! 

    What happened to Virgil Fox's organ shoes when he passed away?  

  •  02-27-2008, 8:39 AM 49447 in reply to 49438

    Re: Footwear

    I think Marilyn Brennan  (founder of the Virgil Fox Society) has them. They were put on display in the narthex at Riverside Church for the Virgil Fox Memorial Recital October 8, 2000.
    Along side his shoes was his cape.  I was there for the concert and it was kinda cool looking at those items.

    Rob
  •  02-27-2008, 11:01 AM 49450 in reply to 49438

    Re: Footwear

    Jason E:
    Since you have a regular church job, do you keep your organ shoes at church?

    Can't do that, though it is tempting.

    I often have to play the organ at many different rehearsals, all over the map.  So my organ shoes go wherever I go.  Smile

    They are kept in the trunk of my car, along with a huge cardboard carton filled with three-ring binders (for various choral groups) and any other scores I may be working on.

    Since I've had my Organmasters for so many years (and taken them abroad many times) I guess I think of them as my 'lucky' shoes.  I've only forgotten them once and was nearly in a panic, until the organist who found them hand-delivered them to me.  I didn't expect him to do that, but he knew how important they were.


    Soubasse32
  •  03-01-2008, 2:38 PM 49621 in reply to 49282

    Re: Footwear

    Austin766:
    I was at a church service this morning and the organist (who allows me to play the organs at his church) asked me if I had organ shoes I told him that I play in socks. So the question here is what do you wear on your feet when you play?

    Blessed be Austin!

    If life is ever to have meaning, then organists must be allowed to play in socks!! Stick out tongue

    Okay, I've been through the usual routine: ordering custom-made organ shoes that turned out to be good for neither playing an organ or even walking!! Tongue Tied  Notwithstanding my experience, there are probably at least some informed organ-shoe manufactureres out there somewhere! Tongue Tied.

    While my heart goes out to public performers, who are pretty much stuck with doing the organ-shoe thing, merely for the purpose of maintaining some sort of performer-decorum; it's not something we should have to endure at home!!

    IMHO: Wearing shoes to play pedals, makes about as much sense as wearing leather gloves to play manuals; or wearing a snowmobile suit to take a bath!! Sad 

  •  03-01-2008, 5:01 PM 49628 in reply to 49621

    Re: Footwear

    Clarion:
    IMHO: Wearing shoes to play pedals, makes about as much sense as wearing leather gloves to play manuals; or wearing a snowmobile suit to take a bath!! Sad 

    Several folks here gave entire lists of reasons why shoes are better.  Hmm

    Perhaps it is too much to ask folks to change old habits.  Confused

    But for anyone just starting to learn the organ - do it right: wear proper shoes.


    Soubasse32
  •  03-01-2008, 6:10 PM 49635 in reply to 49628

    Re: Footwear

    Smile
    soubasse32:
    Several folks here gave entire lists of reasons why shoes are better.  Hmm

    Perhaps it is too much to ask folks to change old habits.  Confused

    Perhaps it is more like asking old folks to change old habits.  Confused

    I'm not sure that they gave reasons, but I just happen to be one of those folks out there, who doesn't like wearing shoes. Whether in the house or on the beach, I don't wear shoes!  Even when driving, if I am going to be on the road for the entire day navigating my ten ton motorhome down the road, I always carry with me, a special pair of lightweight moccasins specifically for that purpose.

    I've tried the organ-shoe routine; and any modest advantage is more than offset by the fact that I just don't like wearing shoes of any kind!! Too late to re-convert me after all of these years. Embarrassed 'Suppose I could get thicker heels for my socks, but that's as far as I prepared to compromise. Smile

  •  03-01-2008, 7:59 PM 49642 in reply to 49635

    Re: Footwear

    At one time I had organmaster shoes. The shoes were lost in one of my moves, since then I have been playing in socks. My regular shoes are too wide and the grit on the soles from walking outside grinds down the pedals. However, every teacher has told me that playing with proper shoes gives better results.

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  •  03-01-2008, 8:12 PM 49643 in reply to 49642

    Re: Footwear

    Not to stir up any festering sentiments, but if you check YouTube videos of professional organists... well I've never seen a one that didn't wear organ shoes. 

    Come on, guys...  

  •  03-01-2008, 8:14 PM 49644 in reply to 49635

    Re: Footwear

    soubasse32:
    Several folks here gave entire lists of reasons why shoes are better.

    Clarion:
    I'm not sure that they gave reasons, but I just happen to be one of those folks out there, who doesn't like wearing shoes.

    Reasons:

    But don't let me spoil your shoeless fun - just tell me to stick a sock in it.  Stick out tongue


    Soubasse32
  •  03-01-2008, 8:21 PM 49645 in reply to 49644

    Re: Footwear

    soubasse32:

    But don't let me spoil your shoeless fun - just tell me to stick a sock in it.  Stick out tongue

    Interesting you put it that way.  Such possibilities! Idea 

    I should never post here when I get back from the London clubs.  Beer 

  •  03-02-2008, 10:52 AM 49677 in reply to 49645

    Re: Footwear

    Jason E:
    soubasse32:

    But don't let me spoil your shoeless fun - just tell me to stick a sock in it.  Stick out tongue

    Interesting you put it that way.  Such possibilities! Idea 

    I should never post here when I get back from the London clubs.  Beer 

    I would be the first to jump on that (so to speak) but I'll leave that one alone as well.Beer 


    "The Organ is in truth the grandest, the most daring,
    the most magnificent of all instruments invented by human genius."

  •  03-02-2008, 11:30 AM 49678 in reply to 49644

    Re: Footwear

    soubasse32:

    Reasons: . . . .

    These 'reasons' primarily apply to street -vs- organ shoes; and offer no particular advantage over good 'ole socks:

    - Are clean, and keep the pedals clean and clear of dirt, sand, salt (I live in snow country), and other contaminants.  I NEVER wear them outside.

    Same goes for socks: They are clean, clear of dirt, sand and salt; and they are seldom worn outside in snow country. Wink

    - Have soles which allow one to feel the pedals through the sole.  With wear, the sole molds to the foot and become more comfortable over time.

    Pretty much the same attributes could be applied to socks. Big Smile 

    - Are the right width to fit between the pedals.  I've found it's hard to find street shoes wide enough for my feet which will fit between the pedals--allowing me to play only one note at a time without contorting my ankles to get the right angle.

    Socks are even more accomodating in that regard. Embarrassed

    - Prevent the obvious--odor!

    Dunno how that one got in there, but I suspect that socks would be the clear winners on that point.

    - They have a heel just tall enough so I don't have to overflex my foot when playing with the heel - a real hazard.

    That's an interesting consideration; but I am skeptical of the real hazard aspect of the endeavour. While the achilles tendon (tendo calcanneus) tends to be somewhat resistant to yielding to increased dorsiflexion, with a little persistance it can be achieved; even for old folk. The accepted approach for achieving increased dorsiflexion, is to do knee-bend squats while keeping your feet flat on the floor. Wearing high-heeled organ boots, is unlikely to augment this kind of flexion, to the point that you become dependent upon organ shoes. Embarrassed

    'Course, from the outset, this thread has failed to address the matter of where you wear what! Indifferent Most of us might wear something entirely different at home, than when out in public. I tend to remain convinced that wearing organ shoes in public, rather than socks, is more a matter of public presentation than an artistic consideration.

    Like . . . . for all of you organ-shoe advocates; what do you actually wear at home, when you want to relax and just enjoy yourself ?? Embarrassed

    As a sidebar, cultural differences tend to be enormous. We recently enjoyed, as a guest in our home, a young medical doctor from India. As he entered our home, he immediately removed his shoes. No big deal there. But he then he continued on to remove his sox, parading around the house for the rest of the day, barefooted in a business suit ! From the very Beginning, God figured that covering up the human body was a really good idea! Indifferent 

    As long as you only have to wear sox . . . .  Wink

  •  03-02-2008, 3:53 PM 49687 in reply to 49678

    Re: Footwear

    I do wonder though...how does the Sowerby Pageant fare when you try to play it with socks?  Hmm

    'It isn't that difficult. All one has to do is press all the right keys at the right time and the organ plays itself.'
    Yeah RIGHT.
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